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Debs won by QuantumBranching Debs won by QuantumBranching
This is from someone else's scenario on soc.history.what-if ( [link] ): basically, the US Socialist movement does rather better, Eugene Debs wins the Presidency on a Socialist ticket, the panicked right tries to prevent him from taking office, and there is a genuine revolution as a result...

For the curious, Poland broke away during the Soviet near-collapse in the late 90s, has turned its back on Communism more thoroughly than any other ex-Soviet puppet and has a hardline nationalist and Very Catholic government, although not actually a theocracy. Spain as OTL had a civil war in the 30s, and with Germany, Italy, France and the UK (gone a bit red scare bugshit after the US went Red (or at least a dark shade of pink)) supporting the Franco-equivalent, Spain went *fascist: they later sent troops into Portugal when revolution threatened their right-wing allies in Portugal, and apparently forgot to leave.

The Catholic Pact is a new political creation, with Poland allying with the most ideologically compatible nation in Europe, and Parguay, one of only two remaining rightist juntas in Latin America (propped up by xenophobia re their neighbors) jumping on the bandwagon in hopes of getting a bit of aid. The Columbians aren't taking the risk of offending anyone by joining, and anyway the Spanish and the Poles consider them waay too feckless.

Iberia is a bit of a right-wing "north Korea", poor, isolated, and armed with WMDs: it's a bit better off in that it at least has local capitalism and there isn't actual starvation (farming can be done at a profit), although the continued growth of the population (birth control is illegal, as is abortion) may change this in time.
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paikal26626 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Student Artist
Seriously, i can't tell the differences in this maps. In the end, they looks all reds to me.....except Iberia thus, he give me more chill than the reds.
IntrepidTee Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
We have oil, yay

AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Artist

Never thought I'd see the day you made a map on this premise...
QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
Why not? Do I come across as Republican? :)
AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Not at all. I just never thought I'd see anyone make a map of an democratic-socialist America. Debs was always someone I'd like to invest my time in learning about and only managed to come across with scant details...
Planken Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
USA even has democratic now and not just two big parties who no-one exept USAnians see a difference in? hmmm. One is very rightwinged. The other is even more rightwinged. Thats the more or less Difference i see . Anyway. Myself live in Norway The ''other democratic/at least bribe the opposition rather than shooting them'' part of the world. if i saw it left(because right is wrong and left is correct).
godofwarlover Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012
Conservatoons' worse nightmare
mdc01957 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2012
So America is French-style democratic now?
QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
Somewhat less democratic: one party does win most of the time. Say as democratic as modern Japan? :)
TomBombardier Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2012
Less democratic than being able to dissolve the Legislative Branch?
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