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This account is a storage spot for my alternate history maps. I also have started putting up "Alien Space Bat scenario" (fantasy settings) writings in a seperate "ASB" folder, and more recently some doodles.

PS - to see all the map deviations in my gallery, hit "browse": for some reason some don't show up otherwise, although they aren't in seperate folders.

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Have neglected putting anything here, so I thought I'd start adding: alternate history maps by others, some Anime pics, odds and ends...

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Bruce Munro
United States
Current Residence: Where the rabbit shoulda made a turn
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Putting up some older maps, originals and covers of other people's work, for completeness's sake. Sorry about the iffy quality or lack of long blab in many cases.

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HeliosMegistos Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
Have you ever thought of doing a Timeline 191/Southern Victory what if where the Germans still win WWI in Europe but the CSA narrowly defeats the USA or wise versa with the Entent wining in Europe but the CSA still falling and Canada possibly still been absourbed ?
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whateley23 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
Very nice maps.

I wonder if you might be interested in doing (or working out your own version of) Priddo, which was found in the game Lords of Creation (the name is Welsh or pseudo-Welsh for "Earth"). There are two main changes involved: first, Spartacus heads north and escapes the Italian peninsula, eventually settling his army of escaped slaves in the area of Hungary; second, Boudicca's revolt is successful, kicking Roman influence out of the British Isles. (There's a third, but it is less interesting for the ATL, involving the pursuit and success of magic instead of science - since it then simply fulfills the exact same niche, fire elemental-driven steam engines and such, it has no real effect on the situation.) Those two major changes seem to me to be an interesting, and faintly plausible, starting point. I'll leave out the rest in case you want to pursue the idea on your own (but just ask if you would prefer I give an overview of the way that Tom Moldvay chose to play it out).
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QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014
How did Tom have it play out?
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whateley23 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014
Spartacus gets up to the Danubian plain and sets up an anti-slavery kingdom. Trajan's legions invade the Spartacans around 100CE and the survivors split, part retreating to Carpathia, the other part to the area north of the Black Sea. The Spartacans join up with and eventually merge with the Ugrian peoples, making a hybrid civilization that loathes slavery. The Huns pound on them and the Ugrian kingdom flees back to the Danubian plain, where the two Spartacan branches hook back up. Around 350CE, the British (Cymru) reconquer much of Gaul and northern Iberia. The Cymru and the Ugrians end up allying closely, which lasts up to the present of the timeline.

So, Europe is Cymru on one side, Ugria on the other, and the western Roman Empire in between (and in southern Iberia and north Africa). The eastern Roman Empire is pretty much where it should be (Turkey to Egypt). Garderike controls Scandinavia and the northwest of Russia, while the Golden Horde retains nominal control of the southwest of Russia on up to touch the northern coast along the eastern edge of Garderike. Greater Persia is the Khaganate of Murad, while India and part of Burma (for some reason not explained) is the Sultanate of Maratta. Most all of central Asia is Mongolia. Japan controls Korea to Kamchatka, all of southeast Asia is Khmer, and Shangtao (China) is fairly small.

Colonially, Ugria has South Africa (Alfold), southern Australia (Bakony), and Argentina (Mordvinia). Cymru colonized north America with three colonies, New Dalriada, New Eire, and New Bretony. The southeast is the Cherokee Confederation, while much of the west is taken up by the Empire of the Cheyennes (not sure I buy that one much). Mexico (Oxaca) and the Incas (Quitu) are where you'd expect, more or less. Other than that, there are four named African empires (Monomatapa to the northeast of Alfold, Bornu in central Africa, Yatagan in west Africa, and Nubia where you'd expect). After that are some small kingdoms (Duchy of Pomerania, Kingdom of Masovia, Principality of Armenia).

Tech is like 19th century, but (as I noted) with magic replacing science in many cases (fire elementals powering steam engines and such, making this an early example of what would later become known as "steampunk"). Much of the world is labeled "unexplored", mostly in Africa, the Americas, eastern Russia, and northern Australia.

I could send you a photo of his map, if you want. Send me an email: whateley23 at the yahoo.
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OttoVonSuds Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014
I'd like to see this: groups.google.com/forum/messag… out.

Quite an interesting little ATL imo.
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QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014
That link isn't working for me.
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OttoVonSuds Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014
Does this one work?

groups.google.com/forum/#!orig…

the thread if the single message fails: groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/…
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QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014
An interesting notion (with way too many space-filling empires :) ), although I'd say that once chemistry reaches mid-19th century levels, the development of things which produce big kabooms is inevitable. (Hmm. What does the first steampunk war with TNT but no gunpowder look like?)
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Sliversun Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2014
Have you considered doing Datum Earth from Terry Pratchett's The Long Earth book series?  It's a great concept!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long…
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QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014
Datum? Isn't that the Earth-1, so to speak? Are you thinking map or scenario? I don't recall if the first book (the only one I've read so far) discussed the differences from our world much.
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