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This account is a storage spot for my alternate history maps. I also have started putting up "Alien Space Bat scenario" (fantasy settings) writings in a seperate "ASB" folder, and more recently some doodles.

PS - to see all the map deviations in my gallery, hit "browse": for some reason some don't show up otherwise, although they aren't in seperate folders.


Have neglected putting anything here, so I thought I'd start adding: alternate history maps by others, some Anime pics, odds and ends...


A Crystal World by QuantumBranching
A Crystal World
OK: this one is basically L Neil Smith's "Crystal Empire", incorporating some bit of "The Gate of Worlds" and a little more plausibility.

A mutated version of the Black Death arises in France: it doesn't travel as well as the regular kind, so it doesn't spread too far, but western Europe gets a double dose of death, allowing for an easier Ottoman expansion and an effort by north African Muslims to do a re-reconquista (or would that be a de-conquista?) by way of Granada. European states most distant from the "front lines" manage to rally, but are in the end unable to prevent Islam from overrunning far more of Europe than OTL. The rather overextended Ottomans, meanwhile, eventually settle for ruling much of their vast conquests as puppets, while the northernmost parts of europe manage to slip out of their influence.

History happens. Due to butterflies from different events in the west, a Turkish *Timurid Empire manages to conquer the north of a less successful Ming dynasty, and over the course of several centuries of warfare, the south and finally Japan, benefitting from technological and military improvements filtering in from the Ottomans. The South Chinese, who like the Sung before them are pushed to look to overseas trade as a substitute for the lost northern lands, discover the route to the Americas, and as the Islamic Khanate slowly grinds south, many flee to the Americas for refuge, followed later by Japanese. The Scandinavians discover their own route to the Americas by way of Greenlands, and are followed by the Ottomans and their Moroccan vassals, who establish themselves to the south.

In the year 2014, the world is divided between three great empires, two of them Muslims: the Christian League of the North likes to think of itself as another big power, but it's not taken too seriously. Absorbing much European culture and philosophy, the Ottoman state has developed a primitive scientific community, and has made great advances in rule-of-thumb engineering: railways are binding the diverse regions of the Empire together, steamships spin their giant paddle wheels, a telegraph has been developed in spite of the still rather confused nature of electrical theory, and an industrial revolution of sorts has been going on for a while, if moderated by a paternalistic Ottoman state which doesn't stand for the sort of abuses normal in early British industrialization. The Empire is rather decentralized (although railways are starting to lessen that) and fairly tolerant of religious minorities, the tolerance that comes from largely unquestioned mastery - although that mastery is now under challenge.

The former Khanate is now the Holy Caliphate of the Central Realm, under a new southern dynasty which burn with the fervor of recent converts. They have no patience for the tolerant and easy-going nature of the Ottomans, [1] and with millennia of Chinese centralism behind them, are making a cohesive and centralized state out their Empire. The Emperor has taken the title of Caliph, claiming to have a better claim to it than the "degenerates" in Constantinople, and military planners are drawing up enthusiastic schemes for campaigns in disputed India, the islands to the south, or even Iran. All the world must acknowledge the Central Realms leadership of Islam! Their technology is derivative of Ottoman models and generally inferior, but they feel enthusiasm, good organization, and numbers will make up for that in case the Ottomans dispute their status.

It's not just rivalry with the Ottomans, though: it's partially sour grapes and a way of washing the sour taste of failure out of the collective national mouth after the attempt to invade the *Americas to regain control of their "disloyal subjects" ended up with their fleet sent to the bottom of the Pacific by the Threefold Realm's superior naval gunnery. 

The Threefold Realm is three kingdoms or "Thrones" founded by Chinese, Japanese and some Korean immigrant mixing with native American societies, and have only been unified in one overarching empire for the last century and a half. There are substantial regional differences: for instances, the more solidly Asian northern "Throne of the Golden Mountain" doesn't cotton to human sacrifice to the extent of the southerners, although it has begun to catch on as a mark of Imperial solidarity.

(It's not quite Mesoamerican or Andean sacrifice: it's not specifically meant to raise the sun or feed the Gods, who can feed themselves, but meant to help maintain the Tao, the harmony, of Earth and heaven, and represents the willingness of the People to sacrifice themselves for the common good: victims are - at least in theory - meant to be willing and honored. It also doesn't take place in quite such job lots: the elaboration of ceremony is more important than poundage of heart-meats).

They are generally tolerant of polytheists who don't follow their odd mix of Taoism, Buddhism, and local faiths, but when it comes to the Muslim enemy no follower of Islam is allowed in their lands, and Christians and Jews, as "people of the Book", are usually confined to trading ports and border towns. They have created an extensive network of native vassals to serve as a "cordon sanitaire" between then and the arrivals from across the Atlantic, and are quite concerned with reports of conversions to Islam and Christianity in some of their more far-flung vassals. 

The overall society is aristocratic, highly literate, and artistic, and while culturally quite divergent from old China consider themselves the "true heirs" to Chinese civilization: they hope to one day return and liberate their homeland (there is considerable dispute as to whether the locals can be "deprogrammed" or whether they will simply have to kill off most of the population and replace them with immigrants from the *Americas).

This is not entirely wishful thinking. The inhabitants of the Threefold Realm of the Dawn Lands are technically very adept, and their natural philosophy is in some ways more advanced than that of the Ottomans: of late, some of their deepest thinkers have begun to wonder what it might look like if one could ride atop a beam of light...

For now, they wait and watch the increasing tensions between the Ottomans and the Central Realmers. If a World War breaks out, the opportunities may be vast. 

[1] They actually don't mind too much People of the Book, Jews and Christians, which in any event are few in number in the Central Realm. It's tolerance of _heathens_ like Buddhists and Hundus which really honks them off, an attitude which began to develop when China went Muslim-majority and treating "pagans" nice became less necessary.
Faeelins Eu Game by QuantumBranching
Faeelins Eu Game
Hokay: a map of a Civ game by Faeelin over on I may have gone more by the maps he gave me than the description, which was this...

[I]It's 1800, and the Hanseatic League formed the nucleus for a United, liberal, protestant Germany, whose colonies in North America (the Freistatt) stretch from the Arctic Circle to the Missisippi. In Europe, the League has found itself at the center of a major empire by accident, after it used the levee en masse and the world's most sophisticated financial system to kick the shit out of the Russo-austrian alliance. The Portuguese, meanwhile, have control of Australia, the Philippines, and OTL Indonesia, which will certainly not form the nucleus for a *communist anticolonial state in 150 years.

The Ottomans still rule Ukriane through their Crimean vassals, and Scandinavia has eaten Norway. (Copenhagen survives as part of the Hanseatic League). The English conquered Mesoamerica, after an initial Spanish invasion fell apart, but the region is now revolting against the absolutist Lancasters who rule the British Isles. Spain rules the Southern Cone, while the French hold Colombia/Guyana.

Castille (spain was enver unified, which served the Italians poorly against the Grand Turk) ruled the Low Countries for several centuries, but in the 1760s the Dutch Patriots, armed with Hanseatic assistance, threw them out. The Low Countries are loosely associated with Germany, being somewhat poorer than OTL during this time period (while Germany is richer). France also experienced a Time of Troubles, and the Castillians still hold Roussillion. On the other hand, they managed to grab Luxembourg and Brabant.

China, divided into warring states after the Ming finally tottered in the 1720s, seems to be rife for foreign expansion. What people haven't realized is that the Zhou dynasty is very, very eager to buy Western guns and toys from the Germans, who are interloping on the Chinese Trade that the Portuguese used to dominate. I can send a few snapshots next week when I get back from vacation.
No Gunpowder by QuantumBranching
No Gunpowder
OK, a map based on an old alt.history.what-if scenario pointed out by OttoVonSuds. In this world neither Europe nor China developed gunpowder, kicking off various butterflies.

Technology is basically on an 1820s level, although early industrial technology is more widespread than OTL. Steam ships and locomotives have as not yet been developed. Germ theory and basic sanitation are spreading, which is both good and bad: good that it will lower the very high mortality rate, bad in that it will lower the very high mortality rate (Europe has been scraping against the Malthusian limit for a while in spite of the development of double cropping and other advances in agricultural technique: fewer children dying of disease will just make things worse). Asia too is getting overly crowded; the import of American crops such as potatoes having given some room for further expansion, but things going forward look a bit worrysome. Only in Africa and the Americas is there still a fair degree of room for growth. 

With no cannon to knock down their fortresses or massed ranks of gunpowder troops to minimize the necessary skill level of soldiers, the European nobility has remained more powerful, although through means more subtle than “level their castles” most European monarchies have been able to establish their superiority to their noble subordinates. (France has had a hard time, and if it hadn’t been for the fecklessness of the great nobles France might have done better at standing up to the Holy Roman Empire). 

Capitalism is underdeveloped by our standards, and old-style mercantilism remains the norm. Banking is fairly limited. Industrialization is taking off in a number of countries, but tends to be dominated by the nobility, which control the towns in which new industry develops, although usually working through commoner merchant intermediaries to avoid getting their fingers dirty with actual commercial dealings. The Holy Roman Empire is unusual in the number of industrial centers controlled directly by mercantile elites, thanks to the Hansa and their lack of feudal overlords save the Emperor himself. 

Politics are regressive, with some Amerindian states being probably the closest things to republics in this world: enlightened absolutism is about as “liberal” as it usually gets, and the mercantile non-nobles only powerful in a few countries, more through bribery or alliance with kings and emperors than through institutional means: parliaments, where they exist, are weak. The wealthy commoner classes are further weakened politically by the tendency of their members to buy their way into the nobility. Serfdom remains widespread, and slavery is legal pretty much everywhere, although the much more limited presence of Europeans in tropical America means that the Atlantic slave trade is a smaller-scale affair than OTL. 

Humanist thinking was weakened by a slowed transfer of Greco-Roman cultural heritage from Byzantium (the takeover of Constantinople by fellow Orthodox Bulgars led to a greatly reduced diasporah of Greeks to the west) and the Renaissance was a rather more subdued affair, intellectually speaking.

The great Ottoman success was butterflied, and instead the Karamanid Turks dominated everything between Libya and Iran for a while, although they never succeeded in taking Constantinople. 

With weaker European navies (no cannon) and less effective armies, Europe never was really able to impose its will on the Asian mainland, so India remains under the rule of local princes and potentates. 

The discovery of the Americas was a much slower process, with a number of intermittent contacts over two and a half centuries before regular travel and colonization began in the 18th century, giving Amerindian societies more time to adapt and early exposure to diseases and iron, pigs and horses. Native states still dominate in much of the Americas, most notably the Tlaxcala, who have used European wars and mutual distractions to establish themselves as masters of the Caribbean. 

Catholicism remains supreme in Europe and the Papacy is immensely powerful, although the Popes have had sufficient lack of faith in their successors that they’ve stayed away from any declarations of Papal Infallibility. Heresy still flourishes and religious oddity is almost the norm in the *Americas, where a somewhat indirect transfer of Christianity to the locals has led to several variant Christianities at odds with Rome. (Quite a few European religious oddballs head out to the *American frontier, where they obtain glory through either successful conversions or through martyrdom at the hands of the locals). 

Japan is about 50% Christian, divided into Catholics and odd local variants. Concern about their possible role as agents for a foreign power (the Papacy) so far keeps Catholics out of the top government jobs. Jews, seen as having a distinct role in the Apocalypse, are under the protection of the Catholic Church in Europe, and anti-Semitic dialogue is reduced to a low background hum throughout Europe, not yet having married itself to ethnic nationalism, scientific racism, and backlash from modernization.

The military is less Nobleman-dominated than before, pike squares, longbows, sophisticated crossbows, etc. all having eroded the primacy of the Man in Armor on Horseback model. Steam power promises such exciting developments as the Steam-Powered Ballista or catapult. Guns based on compressed air have been developed, although the need for frantic pumping between shots somewhat limits its utility. Distilling has led to the development of a sort of Molotov Cocktail, mostly used for Applied Arson, and a form of Greek Fire has been redeveloped. In the meantime, the infant science of chemistry struggles along: in a few decades, they will make some bangs which will be heard around the world...
Nergal by QuantumBranching
This is based on the GURPS Infinite Worlds "Nergal" scenario, sans the black magic and interdimensional interventions. 

In this world the Neo-Assyrians did rather better, crushing the Babylonians for good and all, knocking the Medes and Scythians back east, and incidentally wiping out the Jews and annihilating the independence of the Phoenician cities when they got uppity. (In the process preventing Monotheism from catching on and keeping most writing systems complex and literate-elite dependent). The Empire fell in time, as all empires do, but lasted long enough and extended far enough that it became, like the Romans OTL, the model for later Empires to emulate. Rome was butterflied, Carthage was never founded, and while Greece was not destroyed, being a bit on the fringes of Assyrian power, it was pillaged and raided enough to traumatize the heck out of the Greeks and send their development off in other directions: the eventual Greek Empire, of Italy, the Balkans up to the Danube, western Anatolia and (briefly) Syria and Egypt was a nasty enough piece of work that few mourned it's passing.

The current sixth Assyrian empire isn't really Assyrian anymore (it's creators were an Arab-derived people) but it seeks very energetically to emulate its predecessors. Human sacrifice (adopted, unlike the Alphabet, from the Phoenicians) takes place at the massive basalt and granite ziggurats at regular intervals (if not on the same scale as the MesoAmericans) and the guts of the sacrifices inspected for important omens. Energetic cultural assimilation is pushed hard, with mass population transfers only one mechanism: the Armenians have largely been wiped out as a separate people, and the Greeks survive as scattered pockets in rugged locations (Egypt remains a Problem). Warfare and expansion are pursued as the most important way for a king to maintain prestige, and current aims are to take all of *Italy from the Celtic Nerwa and secure the *Sind as a base for further expansion into India. 

Human sacrifice, severe inequality, and frequent warfare are the norm of this world. Technology is late medieval and superstition rank. Cannon and gunpowder haven't been invented yet, although Celtic distillers have led to the invention of the Molotov Cocktail, the oil-rich Assyrians have a variety of spins on the Greek Fire concept, and the *Korean Taehanese have developed an interesting concept involving a partially evacuated chamber and very fine coal dust, which if successfully deployed does one hell of a job on the walls of besieged cities. 

No gunpowder, you ask? The Chinese were hit by waves of Iranic invaders, starting with Sogdians knocked east, before the Warring State militarization had peaked, and the development of Sinic culture was rather disrupted: the current *Chinese are divided into multiple states, have an aristocratic and rather feudal social system, and aren't that big on scholarship, although their art and architecture is pretty gorgeous, as are the banquets at which captured elite enemies are ritually eaten. (Peasants are only _rarely_ eaten: after all, who knows what diseases they may be carrying?) They haven't invented paper either, although some Indians did invent printing. 

Tamil south India is one of the more civilized parts of the globe: true, widows still burn to death, untouchables are still treated like crap, the rich oppress the poor, etc., but human sacrifice (aside from a certain amount of unofficial work on the part of the disciples of Kali Ma) is unknown, and there is enough of a balance of power between priesthood, kings, nobles and rich merchants that there is a fair amount of security of life and property for most of the population. Now as long as the Northerners don't successfully invade, exterminate the nobility, and convert a third of the remaining population into a dozen new sub-castes of Untouchable, things will be fine. (The Tamils are understandably cheering the Assyrians on). 

The Americas have recently been discovered by *Europeans, and the native civilizations are probably screwed, although the Celts and Northmen are less crusade-minded and probably a bit cleaner than 16th century Europeans. (The Celts and Germanic peoples, after centuries of war and trade and God-swapping have come to see eachother as Fellow Warriors and get along fairly well nowadays, although the Germans still think of the Celts as bloody-minded putzes who couldn't organize an orgy in a whorehouse, while the Celts think of the Germans as anal-retentive perpetual downers with absolutely no taste in facial hair). 

With no Romans or Carthaginians, the NW African coast passed through the hands of various peoples, Greeks, Egyptians, Celtic adventurers, etc. until some 700 years ago when Wiwurgh The Bloody-Handed came out of the mountains to found the first universal Berber Empire. Things have gone up and down in the interval, and the Celts briefly conquered much of the area during a period of disunity, but currently the area is united under a new dynasty which currently holds the strategic region of the straits. Not much for messing about in boats, the Berbers haven't made any conquests in the Americas, and in any event keeping at bay the Assyrians is the most important foreign policy objective. 

Locals are a bit worried about the weather: the sun is currently in a solar minimum, and winters are colder than usual. Harvests have been poor in northern latitudes, and unrest has resulted. The complex fluctuations of sun, moon and Earth may in fact bring on a new ice age in a world with little burning of coal, and it may be up to the technologically precocious Bantu of South Africa to get the Age of Greenhouse Gasses going...
France doesn't help the US revolution by QuantumBranching
France doesn't help the US revolution
Now one of my "map covers": I will put up a few of these, but only ones where I think I have clearly improved on the original.

This takes the original scenario Random map, year is 2010. The vague idea is that France doesn't participate in the ARW, and thus the US stays small and uninfluential, Britain is unchallenged in domination of North America, and rather than the French Revolution, France becomes a constitutional monarchy. Countries with French blue (Portugal, Spain, Naples, Milan, and their colonies) are members of the Bourbon Pact, a closely knit alliance and commercial organization somewhat similar to OTL's EU. The Central European Pact (Austria color and ex-HRE color) was formed to counterract Bourbon monopoly on European markets. The big green blog in central Africa is the Kong-Angola Confederation, associated with Portugal. from here:…

and I expanded that to this:

In this scenario the French were unpersuaded by US efforts to get them to help, and the British eventually managed to crush Washington’s armies. However, defeating the rebels in the field did not make it easy to reestablish the previous order of things – the British view that the rebellion had been in part due to excessive “coddling” of the colonists did not help – and eventually another rebellion broke out, this time driven by fears of British abolition of slavery. In the end, the British were driven out of the south, and only managed to hold on in the north by giving extensive concessions to the colonists…

Some 200 years later, the British Empire is still a leading power, if not as mighty as it used to be. The loss of the US south was counterbalanced to some extent by the gain of Louisiana and the west, and if the New England states are practically separated from the Empire nowadays, their powerful economy is tightly bound into the Imperial system. 

There have been a couple French revolutions, but nothing on the scale of our REVOLUTION: two steps forward, one step back, France has finally ended up with a constitutional monarchy not too different from the British sort. Nowadays, Western Europe, Catholic and Bourbon-dominated, is closely economically unified under French leadership. Brazil has recently joined, and there are efforts going on to persuade the remaining members of the Spanish Commonwealth to join up, but the Viceroyalties of La Plata and Gran Columbia, along with the kingdoms of New Spain and Peru, have gained a degree of independence from Madrid comparable to OTL Canada and Australia’s from London, and are reluctant to compromise their freedom of action by tying themselves to Paris. 

German unification did not receive the nationalist boost of OTL’s revolutionary wars, and was further opposed by both French and Russians: Prussia was never as strong as OTL, failing to obtain the rich resources of the Rhinelands and later losing much of its eastern territories when it stumbled into a fight with Austria and Russia. (Prussia would later return the favor to Austria, helping Bohemia break loose while the Austrian empire was convulsed with revolution). Still, German Brotherhood did remain an ideal, and opposition to being incorporated into a French-led block led to the founding of the Central European Pact, which has grown into a fairly formidable organization over the last century.

Russia has had its ups and downs, wars and revolution: the Republic was a bit scarily radical in its early years, but has mellowed since, and partially decolonized, especially in central Asia. The existence of the Czar in Russian Alaska (a British protectorate in its earlier years) somewhat complicates reunification. Currently relations are tense with Persia: an emerging power, Persia used the excuse of it sponsoring separatist terrorism to invade Azerbaijan. Since Russia and the Azeris were on the outs (mistreatment of Armenian minorities) the Persians assumed that the Russians would not object to their regaining their “traditional territory”: this appears to have been a miscalculation, and an international conference has been called to resolve the crisis. 

With rather more involvement in North America, the British put less effort into other places, and rather than fill the place of the UK, other nations felt less pressured to grab every bit they could before someone else could take it. In some cases people took over areas only to withdraw later when they proved unprofitable or otherwise a pain, most notably the British in West Africa. A slower expansion in India has left several large independent states in the NW (and incidentally is the reason why Persia was able to hold the bits of western Afghanistan it lost OTL and even expand). There was a bit of a scramble in South Africa once rumors of tremendous mineral wealth began seeping out from the interior, in which not only Brits and Dutch, but the Portuguese and even the Danes took part. (As it worked out, the British got most of the gold, but the Dutch got the best diamonds, so it balanced out somewhat).

The Portuguese got the bright idea of expanding into the interior through building up native proxies rather than taking the time, expense, and high death tolls required to make African jungle and waste into proper colonial domains. To consternation in Lisbon, the Confederation of the Equator has grown in size and wealth to the point where the various kings, strong men, and ex slavers that dominate it’s government have become too powerful to be easily pushed around, and increasingly the wealth of central Africa flows into other pockets than those of Portuguese officials and businessmen. A wild frontier sort of place, it features adventurers European and otherwise, mercenaries, international corporations and crime lords: one can make a fortune or as easily lose ones life.

The Ottoman Empire is still around, and has evolved into a fairly decentralized federation: they have managed to hold onto a foothold in Europe by a program of heavily Islamic colonization which has left lesser Roumelia and Macedonia solidly Muslim-majority. With the receding of the Russian Menace, they have largely shaken off the more-or-less joint Anglo-French protectorate those nations established in the late 19th century (without a strong Germany, the Russo-French alliance of OTL never really took off).

While the Confederacy of New England is an important middle-sized power, the south-centered United States has had a less happy story: have fought (and lost) three wars to expand westwards at British expense, it turned into a nasty, inward-turned state, not freeing its slaves until well into the 20th century and afterwards maintaining a police-state type control regime over the 40% of its population that was black (it would be more, but many were expelled, mostly to British territory). Only in the last decade has the US slowly and painfully moved to full rights for all its citizens.

China as OTL took a kicking at the hands of Europeans, and the old Manchu dynasty collapsed, but in a more conservative world the revolution led to a general establishing a new dynasty rather than a republic. China is once again counted as one of the major powers, and is seeking to expand its influence in central Asia. They are also breathing down the necks of the Dutch on the subject of Formosa. SE Asia generally avoided direct European rule, and the Laotians and Cambodians ended being swallowed by their neighbors, although of late the Cambodians have gained some autonomy within the Viet Empire. Thailand’s last civil war ended with a revolutionary regime in control of much of the northern interior: of late the regime has increasingly turned to drugs to keep itself afloat financially. 

Colonialism is on the decline: as OTL in the 1930s, there is writing on the wall, although not everyone is willing to admit the fact. More of India is now under indirect rather than direct colonial rule, and there are moves underway to bring the remaining bits to a status comparable to Australia or Canada (the British Free Colonies are more closely integrated with the home country than OTL dominions, although not quite a federal empire). The Dutch empire in the East Indies is likely to die in fire if some serious changes do not occur soon: the British are being generous with advice, much to Dutch irritation. 

Technology is a bit behind OTL, due to a lack of a Cold War equivalent driver, the innovation engine that was our US, and generally more conservative societies. There are satellites but nobody has been to the moon, computers but no internet, and wireless phones as big as your head. On the positive side, atomic bombs were developed quite late, and arsenals remain quite small, governed by international conventions: it is a civilized world, if a somewhat archaic and creaky one by our standards.


Bruce Munro
United States
Current Residence: Where the rabbit shoulda made a turn
Putting up some older maps, originals and covers of other people's work, for completeness's sake. Sorry about the iffy quality or lack of long blab in many cases.

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Todyo1798 Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So apparently your work is popular on reddit :P…
QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014
Ah, fame at last! :)
Todyo1798 Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well you say that, but I decided I wouldn't be out done and posted one of my better maps, I was then asked if I was yourself.  Needless to say I was flattered, and you know what they say about imitation and flattery.
coldblood11 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2014
Do you take requests?

If so, I have one. It's an ASB scenario in which World War II never happened, because of a drastically different WW1 which left Romania as a major European power, made France become communist, and the German Empire survive.

Basically, France was on the Central Powers, Germany a member of the Entente, and the CP still lost. France went through a rough period of heavy taxation and economic deregulation following the end of WW1, similarly to Weimar Germany, and Russia turned into the Soviet Union around the early 1920's. France then had a revolution; a revolution which changed the country into a communist dictatorship.

The main victors of WW1 were Germany and Romania, being the two slaughterhouses which gained a lot of territory after the war. Britain suffered a civil war in 1921 which turned it fascist due to the rising anti-monarch protestors.

The rest would be up to you to decide, but here's a link to a piece I did awhile back regarding this universe.…
QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2014
 Was Russia a Central Power? Because if it's an Entente power, it's under a lot less stress than in our world and wouldn't probably go Red. Could you give me the full lineup?

PS - If Germany (middle of Europe) isn't in the Central powers, and France (western Europe) _is_, would it be called the _Central_ powers in the first place? :)
coldblood11 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014
Yes, it was. Is it OK for me to PM you on about more details?

Call it the Grand Alliance then. :D
QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014
Sure, go ahead and PM.
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OttoVonSuds Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014
I dare you to rationalize this piece of garbage/madness:…

Something I did 9 years back.
QuantumBranching Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
You don't happen to recall any background on Nihac, Lasnadia, and Montiev, do you? 

(Not to mention Zott and Zulevena)
OttoVonSuds Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
1) Generic communist dystopia
2) I had no idea even back then so go with mu stereotypes
3) See #1
4) Roma state
5) Evil commie gorillas
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